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Does Weight Watchers Really Work?

September 19, 2016   41 Comments

The weight loss community seems to be still deliberating the question: Does Weight Watchers Really Work?

Does Weight Watchers Really Work

On Snack Girl, I posted about Weight Watchers twice this year and have accumulated over 250 comments on the Smart Points program (see: Weight Watchers’ New Program and Weight Watcher’s Smart Points Review). WW launched SmartPoints in 2015 and had a bit of trouble getting the technology off the ground.

The big change from the past programs is that food with sugar – like soda and chocolate – cost members a much higher amount of points and protein filled foods are now fewer points.

Sound like a low carb diet? Yes, it does. But there is (I believe) a consensus among weight loss scientists that eating less sugar (and more protein) is the key to a dieter’s success.

In the NYT article Before You Spend $26,000 on Weight-Loss surgery, Do This, two obesity experts promote the low carbohydrate route:

At our obesity clinics, we’ve seen hundreds of patients who, after cutting down on carbohydrates, lose weight and get off their medications. One patient in his 50s was a brick worker so impaired by diabetes that he had retired from his job….

We advised him to stop eating most of his meals out of boxes packed with processed flour and grains, replacing them with meat, eggs, nuts and even butter. Within five months, his blood-sugar levels had normalized, and he was back to working part-time.

Weight Watchers is evidence based and I believe that SmartPoints is following the research that shows how most people can be successful.

It seems to work for Linda. She commented:

WW is pushing you to eat MORE protein. You should not be hungry on this program. You can always eat fruit and/or veggies - zero points. And if you use your points wisely, you can have LOTS of protein. They lowered the point values for the leaner cuts of meat, turkey, chicken.

Eggs stayed the same. But you get more points now than with the old program. I love the new program, and I have been on all of them - since the 70s!

But not for Amy. She commented:

I'm quitting Weight Watchers because of the Smart Points program. I'd lost 50 pounds on the Points Plus program - felt like I was eating a well balanced diet which included every food group.

Now, I'm eating mostly fruits and veggies and feeling hungry in between meals. I'm not much of a meat eater, usually only eating lean chicken, fish or pork at dinner - but I like reasonable amounts of whole grain items to keep my fiber up. And where's my treats?

Got to have a goodie or two scheduled into my weekly points. After 3 months on the Smart Points, I've lost only 7 pounds and feel greatly deprived. WW always worked for me before, but it's too difficult to stay on program now.

It's too much like a diet and not a lifestyle change. I'll be switching to a Points Plus clone app and cancelling my WW subscription, because a pumpkin spice latte shouldn't cost me a day's worth of points should I choose to indulge.

And Kelly makes a constructive criticism that might get to the heart of whether Weight Watchers will work for you:

From Kelly:

While I love SP, it's not for everybody. I don't think getting rid of SP is the answer. I think adding more tailored plans for people would be the best.

Everyone's body is different. Some people need more protein, while others need more carbs. I don't know if that's possible. People need to find what works for them. I love SP and I tell everyone how great of a program it is. And I still eat my ice cream and/or chocolate almost everyday (except Friday the day before weigh in. )

Please share how it is going for you. What adjustments have you made? What has made it work or not work?

Other posts you might like:

Weight Watchers Smart Points Review

The Weight Watcher’s Smart Points Struggle

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Weight Watchers New Program

Weight Watchers Smart Points: Is it Working for You?

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41 Comments:

I majorly resisted Points Plus and gained weight back. I love Smart Points. The beauty of WW is you can plan for splurges--like always. I'm very happy with this version of WW. I've lost about 70 pounds since last December when they rolled out Smart Points.

I agree that since I have been on the new Weight Watchers, i have not lost as much weight as I thought I would have. I love fruits and vegetables but I also like my snacks such as sweets to keep me from cheating. Not sure where to get the Points Plus app but would love to know that one also.

Thanks

I've been participating in WW for 9 years and lost 60 pounds - at age 60 finally made my goal (set by my doctor). Then had some life issues and gained 20 back. Life happens - surgery happens - things happen. But I've never given up on WW. It's a VERY HEALTHY way of eating and exercising. No it's not a quick loss diet - it's a lifestyle change in your thinking, the way you eat, what you choose to eat and your activities. I feel the meetings are the highlight of my week. I get encouragement there and ideas/suggestions on new foods and beverages that help keep things interesting. I'm delighted that I'm eating healthier than I ever have in my life - much leaner meats, more veggies and fruits and I still have breads and other carbs - just in smaller portions. I even have ice cream - the real thing - once a week. I have dark chocolate occasionally - not much - but also the real thing. The weight loss is slow and some weeks nothing at all - but I'm happier with myself when I know that I'm making an effort every day to make the best choices I can; few processed foods, more high quality foods; less eating out; more water. The WW program is multi-faceted and there are many options about how you can spend your daily allotment of points. And the extra points you get each week can be used for that special treat or two. It's really a generous amount of food and you can lose weight if you follow the program - yes, you do have to exercise and yes you do have to give up some junk food - and yes in the end you'll feel better; spend less on health care and will thank yourself for taking care of yourself for you, your family and every time you have an occasion to go to - that you're not sitting this one out because you're ashamed of how you look. WW is an investment in YOU! For me it's more important than buying all that junk food - it's expensive! I'd rather pay for those meetings and make better food choices at the grocery store than pay at the doctors office, hospital, drug store later...Nothing is worth more than my health and well-being... :)

I do not like the SP plan, I feel hungry all of the time. I lost 42 pounds and reached lifetime status on the points plus program. It is very difficult to keep from not gaining weight on the new program due to the fact of feeling hungry most of the day.

I believe Weight Watchers is fundamentally wrong and they hook you in to spend more and more and more money. I'm writing a book about this, as a matter of fact!

I was WW member for a 7 years and became life time after losing 120lbs and kept it off without WW when I left a year ago. I left after being flustrated with the leaders lack of knowledge about maintaining weight with (pts) and helping me balance my growing activity level with the new SP.

"But there is (I believe) a consensus among weight loss scientists that eating less sugar (and more protein) is the key to a dieter’s success." While eating less sugar and more protein is likely better for us. SP is not sustainable for me. And if it isn't sustainable it doesn't matter how scientifically correct it is. I might as well go on any other 'diet' to quickly lose the weight and then try to maintain the loss from there because this is not something I could do long term. I quit WW and found PP tools to work that plan on my own. I lost 110 pounds on PP without difficulty and will continue with this because SP was just a struggle and I don't need that in my life.

For those of you looking to follow the Points Plus program, I did a search on Goggle for points plus and found several apps that you can buy which follow the old system. The reviews were good and the cost for the app is low. Good luck!

Weight Watchers encourages people to focus on food 24 hours a day: the goal SHOULD be to put food where it belongs, as a small part of our life (necessary for nourishment).

The advertisements for Weight Watchers where Oprah says she LOVES LOVES LOVES bread makes me ill. And the rest of the people talking about LOVING various foods. America has a morbid obesity problem because of the encouragement of LOVING food over LOVING people.

Healthy thin people rarely think about food. They forget to eat. They believe that time and money spent buying food, cooking food, talking about food, thinking about food is wasted time: they are busy loving PEOPLE instead of food, doing ACTIVITIES instead of cooking, spending money on USEFUL things instead of wasting it on food that ends up as excrement.

The nation's obsession with food and restaurants and advertisements and then dieting to get rid of the pounds put on by being obsessed with food is almost criminal. People should ad up every minute spent thinking about food, talking about food, reading cookbooks, planning recipes, buying food, cooking food, eating food, cleaning up after eating food, earning the money to buy excess food, going to meetings to try to lose the weight put on by the focus on food, IT IS TOTAL INSANITY.

For too many Americans, food is the 'legal' drug. Yes, drug addicts spent a lot of time focused on THEIR drug: the food addicts spend even more time focused on THEIR drug.

What hole in one's life is one filing up with food? It will NEVER be filled up. Take the money saved on buying too much food and give it to people who have no money for food. Use the time spent at a Weight Watcher meeting learning how to LOVE LOVE LOVE (less fattening) food and put it to good use reading to an abandoned elderly or handicapped person or helping out at the animal shelter.

As long as the obsession is on food (any kind of food), life will lack balance. Without balance, we tip over into very bad physical, emotional or spiritual vacuums. Weight Watchers is not the answer, Weight Watchers is the problem, one of the problems.

Think about it.

I've been on both programs over the past year and it works. I've lost 55 lbs. by making lifestyle changes supported by both plans.

Really honored you used my comment on here. :)

I stand by the SP Program. It really makes you think about what you're putting into your mouth. This weekend I ate a lot more because family was visiting. Do I feel guilty? Nope. I tracked and used up most of my weeklies. It was worth it! Including that 18 point blizzard. :D

I don't find WW super low carb. I eat a fair amount of pasta and bread. A cup of whole wheat pasta is still 5 sp. I pair it with a side salad or carrots or mushrooms done in the actifry. Even on PointsPlus you shouldn't have a lot of pasta in one meal.

Yes, it's working for me. But people need different things. If you are a member and hungry, I suggest taking your tracker and getting a leader look at it or try the 24/7 chat or Connect and asking members. Sometimes it could be because we're lacking in something. I am definitely not hungry on this plan. I eat a lot of food. And I still have my treats.

Regardless, if this program doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean it's bad. It's obviously working for some people. This is your journey and however you choose to get healthy is for you.

The new WW plan is not conducive to losing weight. You can't just eat all of the fruit you want and expect to lose weight. Sugar is sugar no matter where it comes from. Plain and simple. Everyone should do themselves a favor and save their money and invest in a good Keto diet instead.

I've started with a smart plus program in May. I've had consistent weight loss when I follow the program. However I find it if I don't earn lots of additional fit points at the beginning of the week, it's a struggle to stay on top of the weight loss.

If you are having success on the old pp program, don't change. Duh.

I reached my goal 5 yrs ago on PP and am still there. I'm lucky to not like sugary things but have to watch dairy (cheeses, creams) I never purchased their boxes of snacks. Why does everyone have to eat between meals. And if you do - Apple, carrots etc. I see my friends struggle and then have 2 glasses of wine with dinner. Again, duh. What you eat should not be a "diet" it's a life changing way to eat forever. You will feel better and be healthier

Weight Watchers saved my life! At age 26, I had tried everything including 4 day starvation diets, having lost a thousand pounds starting at the age of 10, up and down! My entire family was obese and I knew I was following my mother's path of 2 open heart surgeries, diabetes and high blood pressure. When they opened a new ww meeting in 1973 nearby, I joined and didn't believe I could really eat full meals and lose! When I hear all of your comments about the various program changes, I chuckle because the program I used back then was very rigid- 5 fish, 3 beef and 1 liver serving each week! But, it worked! I lost 40 lbs in 10 months. I had been living on 2 food groups - fat and sugar- until I learned one simple trick- at each meal meal, half of your plate should be fruits and veggies, 1/4 protein and 1/4 carb (with fiber, I.e. Whole grain bread, brown rice, potato etc). Get one of those divided plates with 3 sections. Example: today, breakfast at Subway- 6 inch whole grain sub with turkey, ham, brown mustard and hold the mayo and a ton of veggies and a bag of apples. I was a Weight Watchers leader for nearly 40 years but haven't counted a point in years! I'm now retired and still at goal. My advice- stop counting points but start eating 3 good size meals per day and fruit between meals. After a few days, your sweet cravings disappear! Stop thinking of this as a diet or something you HAVE to do TO yourself but rather something you want to do FOR YOURSELF! Diets come to an end and you'll regain the weight. In order to keep off the weight, you have to find a way of eating that is identical to the way you'll maintain! Basically, Power Foods are the secret. But most of all, start taking better care of yourself! I always told my members that I had to find other things in life that bring me joy other than food! Blessings to all of you. I miss my members! (Lori's Weight Watchers group) on Facebook. Join the discussion.

I lost over 50lbs on the Points and Points Plus systems...and any time in that duration that I had to step away from the system and put on some lbs, I'd go back and lose it.

Then the Smart Points system was implemented and it all went down hill...no matter how consistent I tracked...the number was rising on the scale...I ended up GAINING 20lbs. Something just was not connecting with me. I just felt deprived. I can only eat so much protein in a day. And not being able to have my treats without feeling guilty was very difficult...and that led to binging and still feeling guilty :(

I quit early this summer...I certainly was not going to pay $45 a month to gain weight when I can do that for free! LOL. So I took the summer to enjoy myself and since last week I have been doing a hybrid of Points Plus and good ole calorie tracking on my own...I'm already losing the weight I put on.

I agree with what Kelly said in your article...if only they can have more customized systems. An option of either SP or PP+.

I stopped at weight watchers about three months ago and have lost 10 pounds since then. Before that I would be down 2 pounds and then up 2 pounds and that went on for months. All I did was think about food. What am I going to eat for breakfast how many points is it, what if I going to eat for lunch and how many points is it and on and on and on. Since I have quit I only think about food when I am hungry. I still eat healthy and eat a lot less and while on tweight watchers and I say 42.95 a month. I even exercise more now than I did when I was on weight watchers because I have more time to exercise so I'm not trying to figure out the points and what I'm going to eat all the time.

you can easily find a similar WW point plus app by just going to your phone's app page and doing a search...or just do a plain old google search using your computer/tablet, its not difficult.

Most people aren't able to plan for their 'cheats' or splurges because life gets in the way.

I much prefer the old points plus program. I do Simply Filling when I need to get the points off. You can have 7 pp a day for your splurge. Works for me.

I am also honored you used my comment, Snack Girl. I LOVE SmartPoints! I also eat quite a bit of carbs -- bread every day, potatoes, brown rice, whole wheat pasta. I also eat lots of fruit -- between four and six a day. It is TOTALLY different than sugar from candy, etc. And I disagree with the comment above about Weight Watchers wants you to think about food 24 hours a day. Not true. Food is rarely talked about in the meeting room -- at least rarely at my meetings. Sure, they have snacks you can buy, but they do not push that at my center. I lost 94 pounds on Points Plus, but I am maintaining very well on Smart Points. I go to meetings each week -- and it is totally free since I am a free Lifetimer. I never buy the WW food products -- too expensive in money and points and not good for you. I rarely eat processed foods. Weight Watchers is definitely the only way to go.

On the old program is was fast to start since it was a radical change for me, but I plateaued far too long with no movement for months at a time. On the new system I am now back to the weight I had in High School and still losing. I have 40 lbs left to go before my medically sound ideal weight. Am I hungry? Sometimes, but a fruit or a hard boiled egg takes care of that. Can I indulge? Yes, but I have to plan it. Can I still eat out with friends and family? Did so twice this week at the office and at home. To those who complain I have to ask, did you really give the new system a solid try? Or did you adapt it to what you were used to doing? If it's the former, I'm sorry it's not working for you. If it's the latter, that's the problem. For me, it works, and I'm happy ^_^

I ignore the points and count calories on LoseIt, monitoring protein, fat and sodium. I don't count veggies or berry calories but do count apple and banana calories. I love connect feature and benefit greatly from it and the meetings. Ww works for me but I track the way that wirks for me.

I lost 75 pounds in 2009 and up until Smart Points was implemented had no problem keeping them off. Slowly but surely I am gaining them back. I track faithfully, I make healthy choices, I don't splurge on sugary items. I am not happy with the new plan. I have become totally uninspired and unmotivated, which I think part of the reason is my leader is not very inspiring. I want to quit but am afraid of what would happen to me if I did. If someone were to ask me today if they should join Weight Watchers, I would probably tell them no. Save their money. Which brings me to another issue. I am lifetime so I just have to weigh in monthly. If I weigh over I of course pay, I know that. We're told to check in every week regardless if we're weighing in or not. If I've weighed over the month, when I check in on the following weeks (no weigh in) they want to charge me again because I was over at my first weigh in of the month. That right there is what bothers me the most.

I have done Weight Watchers multiple times over the years. Most recently, I joined in August 2014. My biggest complaint with the current plan is how many points smoothies and juices are. According to the recipe builder a blended smoothie is the same points as a fast-food burger, that is just crazy. I have lost about 30 pounds and I don't plan on giving up on Weight Watchers but I am at times frustrated by point values and the logic behind it.

I LOVE Weight Watchers! I joined almost a year ago and have lost 60 pounds (and I just turned 70 years old). My cardiologist LOVES Weight Watchers for me. I saw him today and my blood pressure was 110/60 and my pulse is 60. He asked me if I felt better and honestly I had to tell him no because I feel good thin or fat, BUT I am no longer in a carbohydrate coma and half asleep all day. I BELIEVE I can keep this up because in my meeting there are NINETEEN lifetime members of between 2-30 years maintenance. It's healthy, do-able and I don't starve. LOVE it!

While I still struggle some with the SmartPoints, I will say that I have a friend that I have been friends with for some time now and she is totally rocking the SmartPoints and IS having her treats as well. She just plans ahead/tracks so that she can have her treats. She has currently lost over 40 lbs if I am not mistaken. It is truly about finding what works for you.

I restarted wt watchers after a year off..taking care of my ill husband and now dealing with his death. I find the new program more difficult to follow. Ive been on it 5 weeks and only lost 6 lbs. I am hungry a lot and find the repetitiveness hard to follow. Chicken, turkey or fish and then filling all the emptiness with fruits and/or veggies. I am hungry a lot of the time. Trying to cut out processed foods, most carbs, practically all sweets definitely leaves me feeling unsatisfied. The ads say you can eat what you want. Really? Only if you track it all and stay within points limits. No extras for me. When my subscription to the program is up, I will probably quit the program. I feel it has been an expensive mistake for me. The points plus worked for me...smart points is not. I am so disappointed in this program.

It seems that a lot of people are having the same issues. My subscription expires soon also and I am thinking the same thing of not signing up again. I really don't feel like I am getting what I need out of this program. I went into it to lose weight and I don't think Smart Points is the right program for me. I like certain things such as a sweet snack ever once in awhile and you really are not suppose to have them. I am still on the fence about it.

I have lost 49.2# since January 7. I can not imagine people being hungry on this. There is nothing you can't eat as long as you count it in your points. I am NEVER hungry unless I stay up too late, then I sometimes have an apple. My BP meds have been cut in half, I am no longer a borderline diabetic. I cook a lot of different meals, copy tons of recipes from different websites. I have not been on WW in 30 years and have found the SP plan to be the best. Statistics show 15% more weight loss than any other plan. AND, for 5 years I have been on prednisone (which caused me to gain 40). If I can lose on that drug, anyone can. The doctors are amazed. If you plan, track, drink your water and stay within the allotted points, this should certainly work for you. I FEEL FANTASTIC.

I'm sorry, but your comment, "Statistics show 15% more weight loss than any other plan" is absolutely not true. Weight Watchers may have told you that, but it is not backed up by an legitimate studies. Weight Watchers is a profit making business and they rope desperate people in by false claims. People would be so much better off spending their Weight Watcher dues buying healthy food or getting a gym membership or paying a babysitter while they go out and do something special for themselves.

Better yet, see a therapist and get to the bottom of the food obsession. Weight Watchers only wins when people don't lose weight and have to keep coming back,so they purposely make it a program guaranteed to fail. People need to research every single thing about Weight Watchers before they join. The members end up weighing MORE after Weight Watchers than they did when they joined in follow up studies.

If WW is working for people like Carol and me, please don't devalue what has been a success for many people. One size does not fit all, and if it did not work for you then fine--find your own path to being healthy. True they are a business, but there are many many weight loss companies out there--some that make outrageous claims about weight loss. WW does not--safe weight loss is .5-2.0 pounds per week, which is doable if the plan is followed. I do not as a rule purchase WW products (I buy healthy food) and I exercise (I belong to a gym and walk outdoors for at least an hour every morning when the weather is conducive to doing so). I've lost 108 pounds and have every confidence I'll get to my weight goal. As far as getting to the bottom of one's food obsession, that's what WW meetings are for--in the meeting I attend we've been talking about more things than just food and the mechanics. We do try to get to the bottom of our relationship with food. Also the comment about members weighing more after WW than when they joined--that might have something to do with people not following a health eating lifestyle, and doing the basics (tracking, weighing and measuring food, etc). WW works when you follow this--when I've dropped out of WW for whatever reason it is because I did not do what I know to be successful--and that is totally on me and not on WW.

I read and listen to the many differing experiences with weight loss and/or management and can identify with so many! Just today I received a "Food Freedom" video from a Professor of Psychology which I found very valuable. In 30 mins she explains very clearly just about all of our weight problems and how to succeed in our quest. If you have 30 minutes I think you'll find this information useful and its free!

It starts with a short questionnaire.

http://foodfreedomquiz.com/

I DO NOT like the new Smart Points system. I have used Weight Watchers before, and what I liked about it was that help you to live a more healthy life style. I helped you to make ongoing daily choices that move you in the direction of healthy living. The new plan is a DIET. I have never wanted to diet, because diets by their very design are not intended to be a sustainable way of living. I feel like I just wasted fifty dollars, and if I knew it had changed this much I would have kept working with some of the free apps that are available. And, the app is poorly designed.

Well I am sort of a Newbie to WW. I was on WW along time ago and lost weight and then quit doing it. I started back again and I am so confused with everything that I am not sure which program is better for me, Smart Points or Points Plus. I am so confused. I love fruits, vegs and I do like to snack. The problem I have is that I get tired of food real easy so sometimes if I eat salad with protein everyday for lunch I can't eat it all, it begins to have no taste. Then we I finally get home I am so tired from work that I really don't want to eat I just want to snack. Does anyone else have this issue? I would love to hear from you. Thanks

Hi Dianne,

I was really worried about SmartPoints when they first came out, but it's the best program. I know what you mean about getting tired of the same food. I do too. I try to vary my lunches or make them leftovers. I eat the foods I love. Snacking has taken on a different meaning for me. I reach for pickles, overnight oats (smaller versions), and carrots. I get the crunch factor from the pickles and carrots and sweetness from overnight oats. It takes a bit of planning and some getting used to, but once you do, Smart Points can be a really good program!

So far so good. The smart points is working for me but I don't obsess over it. I keep track and once off sugar, my cravings subsided. It is very good diet.

Always amazed that people MUST have certain foods they know are not good for them. WW tells you to have SOME of them, but try to find better alternatives. Common sense. All GREAT diets are the same. That is, UNLIMITED veggies, a couple of pieces of fruit, half portions of protein, think of carbs as condiments. Sugar? Lower or do without. Do your research. If you think you MUST have things that are bad for you, then have them but don't make them a cornerstone. And otherwise figure out what else in your life is the greater problem!

Half protein?

I agree with many of the comments on here... Pro and con. Smart points does funnel your attention toward The lean proteins with additional fruits and vegetables, not just fruits and vegetables. It does not really allow for sweets at all. It does feel restrictive and it does feel like a diet. Points plus allowed for many fruits and vegetables also eating your lean proteins just like smart points. The difference is a piece of chocolate didn't cost you your day as it does on smart points. And it is true the healthier you eat the last of the chocolate you crave. I found it easier to get to that point with points plus than with smart points.

If my real life consisted of that much protein, fruit and vegetables I wouldn't need weight watchers in the first place! Points plus taught me the balance I needed in my life. More protein, more fruits, more vegetables, and less sweets.

Smart points left me hungry, bored and angry with protein, and gaining weight. I will be using a points plus alternative app. To each his own .

Smart points just don't make sense to me and in my opinion could lead people to eat way more calories than they should, as long as the calories come from protein. For example, you can eat 6 cans of Campbell's chicken rice soup in a day for 30 points and 900 calories, or you can eat 15 cans of tuna for 30 points and 3600 calories. That calorie spread is ridiculous when both foods are worth the same points. If I ate 3600 calories a day, I would gain weight no matter what they consisted of. You can restrict your diet to lean protein and veggies and fruit without Weight Watchers, counting points, and spending money. You can count calories for free on MyFitnessPal. Points Plus made a lot more sense.

I think WW has lost its way. When I started back in 1999, it was a good system. They had paper trackers you could carry with you, it was easy to align a point with calories and you could pretty much eat anything if you tracked. I loved Core, it worked really well for me. Smart Points, not so much. What happened to the 8 healthy guidelines?

The whole blacklisting of a food group is not balanced. Whole grains have a place in your diet, they provide fibre and the fuel your brain runs on. Now we are being told all grains are bad, just as bad as donuts or French fries.

We are being told sugar is bad, but eat as much fruit as you want - fruit is mainly sugar, maybe with better wrapping, but your body does not distinguish between fruit sugar and gummy bear sugar.

And now they add a bunch more "free" items but still blacklist whole grains. Beans are starchy, starch is broken down into sugar. I have also heard more than one dietician say that low carb high protein diets don't work for a lot of women because of our physiology. Most of WW clients are women, so what research have they been using?

WW has declined into being just another money-grabbing program. I bought the shopping / restaurant guide and points calculator for points plus. Two years later, out comes smart points and the stuff is useless. so I bought the Smart Points shopping/restaurant guide and calculator. now that is useless. Won't be buying any more products. Hate the website interface, don't like Connect. won't be signing up when my membership expires.

And why don't they give out those nice little pocket manuals? They had lots of useful information in a small package.

I am happy for those of you who have had success with the SmartPoints, and I hope that continues for you as the programs changes. For me, I have made myself a big note to remind me how bad this program is for me next time I think about signing up again. I have had better success with My Fitness Pal counting calories and tracking nutrients, for a lot less money per month.

I was a member of weight watchers many years ago. I did very well and lost 30 pds, then came the change. Points plus was horrible. It had me eating more than I should. It may be a good format for people that have a lot of weight to loose because they are used to eating quite a bit. For me it had me eating too much. I just started smart points and so far feel very satisfied and full. I have a thyroid problem so I am hoping this will still help me through the weight gain I developed during my thyroid problems and my surgeries. Good luck to all.

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